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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ג' מאי 04, 2010 9:45 pm 
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A 2-1 loss for us tonight in what was controversial circumstances, Celtic's second goal on the stroke of half time was a clear foul on the defender with Fortune pushing the defender to the ground before heading home. Towards the end of the game we had a clear penalty for the most blatant of handballs you will ever see and to cap it off following yet another dive by McGeady, the guy does this week in week out now and TV clearly showed there was no contact at all AGAIN.

There is nothing I hate more in football than a cheat and the sooner he is dealt with the better.


Who said this was a meaningless match :grin:

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ד' מאי 05, 2010 12:40 am 
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As you can see, no contact at all.

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We really should be throwing the cheats out of our game. He also had another shocking dive in the first half trying to win a penalty that was rightly waved away as well as a nasty lunge on Kenny Miller when Miller was breaking away yet not a single card shown to him so it looks like Celtic's intimidation policy towards the ref's is working.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ד' מאי 05, 2010 6:53 pm 
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This is the best I can do with the penalty claim

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It really doesn't do it justice at all.

After the Press made such a noise when Brown was sent off for headbutting Lafferty at the last match I thought they'd have scrutinised McGeady's dive a bit more and given him the same treatment they gave Lafferty, despite Lafferty actually being struck, but barely a mention of it in the papers or radio with little more than words like 'soft' and 'harsh' being used instead of cheat and none have mentioned his earlier dive either. Still it's the country we live in I suppose.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ה' מאי 06, 2010 10:23 am 
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A better view of the penalty

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ה' מאי 06, 2010 10:26 am 
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Congratulations to Rangers on there tittle.


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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ה' מאי 06, 2010 8:12 pm 
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A small video of the Rangers fans at the end of the game, if you watch till the end you'll see the Celtic side start a lap of honour in front of an empty ground just for beating us :baktana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm6lhCOQ ... r_embedded

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 12:29 am 

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That song "bouncy bouncy" that their fans sing, is about loyalist men who killed a young Catholic boy in the north of Ireland, by jumping on his head until his skull shattered.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 9:55 am 
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Hahahahaha, excellent attempt Knoxxy.

For the record our young friend is referring to a young man called Robert Hamill who was killed in a sectarian attack in 1997. The Celtic fans have lied so much about all things Rangers that they can no longer tell what is true and what is their lies so please let me educate you Knoxxy and the rest of those among your support who have their heads stuck up their own backsides.

The origins of the Bouncy go back to the early 80's when it was in fact Morton fans who were doing what us old punks would call pogoing, it was at a game in Cappielow one cold winters day that we started to copy them and singing "Boing Boing Bouncy Bouncy" while jumping up and down, seems a bit silly when you say it but it kept us warm :grin:

The song was sung from time to time but didn't really establish itself until the mid 80's, note the date Knoxxy as that's a good 10 years plus BEFORE the lad was killed, and has grown into one of our main songs.

Just in case you still believe the bigots on the terracing next to you Knoxxy my friend

http://www.rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk ... &Itemid=43

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Indeed in 1994, 3 years before Mr. Hamill's murder, 'The 'Bouncy' is specifically referred to in the Club's own Rangers Video Diary as
Security Chief Alistair Hood is jokingly asked if seatbelts will be used to prevent fans in the East and West Enclosures doing this.


Again please note that the Bouncy was directly referred to in an official Club video 3 YEARS before the lads death

Sad thing is many sensible Celtic fans also believe this crap such is the extent of the lies being peddled, my own sister in law for one got all offended when I sang it as we bounced on my trampoline but needless to say she's seen the error of her ways now.

Other such nonsense Celtic fans churn out as truth in an attempt to portray Rangers fans as being big bad boys include the red band at the top of our socks which is suppose to represent "Up to our knees in Fenian blood" :whistle: And our terracing chant "We are the People", God knows what's sectarian about that but they have complained about it many times in newspapers and radio shows despite not being able to give a reason why.


So come on Knoxxy, you were big enough to make the accusation but are you man enough to admit you got it badly wrong or will you just avoid the subject now on here but keep peddling the lies among the deluded cretins you clearly have been spending far too much time with.

Go on be a man.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 6:14 pm 

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I've had 20+ knowledgable r*ng*rs fans telling me that they sing that song with smiles on their faces due to the fact that it's about the catholic boy being killed. Davie Provan also told me personally (friends with his daughter) that's why they sing that song. So I've not just plucked it out of the air. Unlike yourself, I don't have the time to prawl through the internet to check these things, just going by what your fans (not "wee boys" as you like to think of me as) but inteligent lads.

But I now see that maybe I've been falsely informed.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 6:18 pm 

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PS, even if that's not why the song was started, I think you'll find alot of r*ng*rs fans believe it is, and that's the reason they'll sing it.

Also, no pope of rome, famine song, billy boys etc from your lot the other lot. Not a dig, but what dyou make of the comeback of these?

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 6:24 pm 
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PS, even if that's not why the song was started, I think you'll find alot of r*ng*rs fans believe it is, and that's the reason they'll sing it.

Also, no pope of rome, famine song, billy boys etc from your lot the other lot. Not a dig, but what dyou make of the comeback of these?

Aw go and have a word with yourself, that's a pathetic reply, what you are saying is that after at least ten years of singing a song all the Rangers fans got together overnight after hearing of a murder in Ulster and decide to carry on singing the same song but we'd make it about something else instead. Is that honestly your view on it?

If you can't even have the guts to admit you made a total clown of yourself, again, then how can anyone take you at your word on here again.

As for your list of other songs, what is wrong with them? Please give me your reasons for each song, and please for once stick to the facts.

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הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 7:04 pm 

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PS, even if that's not why the song was started, I think you'll find alot of r*ng*rs fans believe it is, and that's the reason they'll sing it.

Also, no pope of rome, famine song, billy boys etc from your lot the other lot. Not a dig, but what dyou make of the comeback of these?

Aw go and have a word with yourself, that's a pathetic reply, what you are saying is that after at least ten years of singing a song all the Rangers fans got together overnight after hearing of a murder in Ulster and decide to carry on singing the same song but we'd make it about something else instead. Is that honestly your view on it?

If you can't even have the guts to admit you made a total clown of yourself, again, then how can anyone take you at your word on here again.

As for your list of other songs, what is wrong with them? Please give me your reasons for each song, and please for once stick to the facts.


There's no way I'm biting to your childish insults.

I don't need to tell you what's wrong with them, if you can't face the facts then youre not worth arguing with. By the way, I'd love to see the look on your son (who you've made quite clear is a Catholic)'s face when he goes to the games and his dad's singing all those songs.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 7:23 pm 
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There's no way I'm biting to your childish insults.

I don't need to tell you what's wrong with them, if you can't face the facts then youre not worth arguing with. By the way, I'd love to see the look on your son (who you've made quite clear is a Catholic)'s face when he goes to the games and his dad's singing all those songs.

Ciao.
My childish insults :ohmy: , that's rich considering you're the one totally fabricating lies on here in a pathetic attempt to make Rangers fans look bad in the eyes of the members of this Board. And then to make matters worse you again dream up some fanciful nonsense about how after 10 years of singing it we decided to keep the words and the actions but change why we were doing it.

Does any of that sound unfair or unjust? It sounds more like the workings of a very bitter and twisted mind.

And after all that you then try and cloud the issue by making some reference to other songs that you fail to tell anyone why you brought them up in the first place, clutching at straws springs to mind.

As the other Celtic fans have already said mate you do yourself no favours at all with these posts, try and think a bit more before you post as it'll save you a whole load of embarrassment.

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Would you guys stop it already.


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Would you guys stop it already.

Sorry Bojan but this is very typical behaviour from some of the Celtic fans on here, they spout their lies like it is fact and once questioned on it the run away throwing more insults. I think the very least Knoxxy can do is apologise for getting his pathetic claim so badly wrong, I think any decent person would admit they got it wrong.

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There's no way I'm biting to your childish insults.

I don't need to tell you what's wrong with them, if you can't face the facts then youre not worth arguing with. By the way, I'd love to see the look on your son (who you've made quite clear is a Catholic)'s face when he goes to the games and his dad's singing all those songs.

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My childish insults :ohmy: , that's rich considering you're the one totally fabricating lies on here in a pathetic attempt to make Rangers fans look bad in the eyes of the members of this Board. And then to make matters worse you again dream up some fanciful nonsense about how after 10 years of singing it we decided to keep the words and the actions but change why we were doing it.

Does any of that sound unfair or unjust? It sounds more like the workings of a very bitter and twisted mind.

And after all that you then try and cloud the issue by making some reference to other songs that you fail to tell anyone why you brought them up in the first place, clutching at straws springs to mind.

As the other Celtic fans have already said mate you do yourself no favours at all with these posts, try and think a bit more before you post as it'll save you a whole load of embarrassment.



I don't really care what the members of this board think of your club, they can draw their own conclusions, and due to the pms I've recieved, they're not too similiar to the views I have. I didn't dream up fanatical nonsense, as I've already explained I was told by YOUR fans that that's the reason you sing the song. I like how you ignored my point about your son being a catholic, but you having no problem singing 'we're up to our knees in fenian blood' and singing songs against the leader of the catholic church. All I actually did was ask your opinion on the re-introduction of the songs, I brought them up as they're relevant to the topic.

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I don't really care what the members of this board think of your club, they can draw their own conclusions, and due to the pms I've recieved, they're not too similiar to the views I have. I didn't dream up fanatical nonsense, as I've already explained I was told by YOUR fans that that's the reason you sing the song. I like how you ignored my point about your son being a catholic, but you having no problem singing 'we're up to our knees in fenian blood' and singing songs against the leader of the catholic church. All I actually did was ask your opinion on the re-introduction of the songs, I brought them up as they're relevant to the topic.

Once again covering a lie with a lie in an attempted to make it the truth.

Surely Fenian is political, after all many Celtic fans are proud to call themselves such, indeed Celtic fans sing many songs referring to themselves as Fenians so please by all means tell me what is wrong with it?

As for songs attacking the Catholic Church you do realise you are talking about the largest fascist organisation in the World, one with a long list of inhumane practises and who would deny human rights to women and homosexuals. You must be the only Leftie (aye right) that defends them.

Most of the Rangers fans problems with the Pope comes from his repeated claims that the Protestant faith is a sham and not worthy of being included under the Christian umbrella, in fact they say that about all religions Christian or otherwise and again any songs are purely political. Surely you're not denying anyone the right to voice their political opinions against fascists?

As for the songs you mentioned I have no problem with them at all, I hear many offensive songs sung towards Rangers fans, songs rejoicing in the death of football fans including children for example and I'm more than sure Celtic fans sing songs that will offend most but it is your right to sing them, a right that hundreds of thousands fought and died to give you. Just think if your IRA had got their way and Hitler had won then you wouldn't have those freedoms to enjoy, ironic isn't it.

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ו' מאי 07, 2010 9:42 pm 

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Once again covering a lie with a lie in an attempted to make it the truth.

Surely Fenian is political, after all many Celtic fans are proud to call themselves such, indeed Celtic fans sing many songs referring to themselves as Fenians so please by all means tell me what is wrong with it?

As for songs attacking the Catholic Church you do realise you are talking about the largest fascist organisation in the World, one with a long list of inhumane practises and who would deny human rights to women and homosexuals. You must be the only Leftie (aye right) that defends them.

Most of the Rangers fans problems with the Pope comes from his repeated claims that the Protestant faith is a sham and not worthy of being included under the Christian umbrella, in fact they say that about all religions Christian or otherwise and again any songs are purely political. Surely you're not denying anyone the right to voice their political opinions against fascists?

As for the songs you mentioned I have no problem with them at all, I hear many offensive songs sung towards Rangers fans, songs rejoicing in the death of football fans including children for example and I'm more than sure Celtic fans sing songs that will offend most but it is your right to sing them, a right that hundreds of thousands fought and died to give you. Just think if your IRA had got their way and Hitler had won then you wouldn't have those freedoms to enjoy, ironic isn't it.


What songs do we sing labelling ourselves fenians? 'Paddy McCourt's fenian army' being the only one that springs to mind, and is really only sung amongst the ultras/supporters groups at Celtic. Doesn't matter though, if we sang 'We're up to our knees in Orangeman's blood' there would be an outcry, and you know it.

Where did I defend the Catholic church :lol: ? Blatent lie. Religions a load of bollocks to me, although my family is Catholic. And you doubting that I'm left wing is just plain embarrassing, seriously need to get a grip of yourself, why would I pretend to be a socialist? On that note, since youre such a lefty antifa kind of guy, how about I send you an Antifascist Action flag? Or an international brigade flag? and you can take it to Ibrox?

So you've basically just admitted you're anti-catholic? Antifa mentality?

Oh those big bad provos, nazis the lot of them! don't make me laugh.

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What songs do we sing labelling ourselves fenians? 'Paddy McCourt's fenian army' being the only one that springs to mind, and is really only sung amongst the ultras/supporters groups at Celtic. Doesn't matter though, if we sang 'We're up to our knees in Orangeman's blood' there would be an outcry, and you know it.

Where did I defend the Catholic church :lol: ? Blatent lie. Religions a load of bollocks to me, although my family is Catholic. And you doubting that I'm left wing is just plain embarrassing, seriously need to get a grip of yourself, why would I pretend to be a socialist? On that note, since youre such a lefty antifa kind of guy, how about I send you an Antifascist Action flag? Or an international brigade flag? and you can take it to Ibrox?

So you've basically just admitted you're anti-catholic? Antifa mentality?

Oh those big bad provos, nazis the lot of them! don't make me laugh.
:ohmy: I didn't even now about that one.

And you do sing "Soon they'll be no Protestants at all" with no outcry despite it meaning you want to see the Protestant people wiped off the face of this Earth, I know that to be true as Celtic fans told me :wink:

I've said previously that I'm anti religion so yes that would make me anti Catholic I suppose, and please stop repeating what I say to you right back at me it's very playground, "you're bad", "No you're bad" :grin:

And just because I don't wave flags are you saying that makes it impossible for me to be left wing in my politics?

Now can we have that apology for your fairytale story about the big bad song or are you still not man enough to admit you made the whole thing up?


While we're talking about being up to our knees in blood you should check out the French National Anthem, La Marseillaise, you'll find whole rivers of the blood of their enemies running through the fields of the countryside nurturing their crops. Perhaps all you easily offended Celtic fans can launch another campaign to get that song banned, or is it only Protestants you target, what bigots :wacko:

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Oh those big bad provos, nazis the lot of them! don't make me laugh.


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Oh those big bad provos, nazis the lot of them! don't make me laugh.


Nationalism, only one step away...

Careful mate he'll just start making up stories about you now.

Do you think an apology for such a nasty little lie is out of order? What makes people come out with such garbage just to cause bother?

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We drew 3-3 today with Motherwell before the Trophy Presentation.

Again we were the victim of the most outrageous piece of cheating when the Motherwell player, Murphy, dived with less than a minute to go to win a penalty. TV once again should that there was no contact at all but that didn't stop the player from throwing himself to the ground. Such has been the poor decisions against us in recent weeks I'm beginning to feel like there is an agenda among the refs and the football authorities to make the Title much closer than it was.


Anyway another season over and yet another Title in the cabinet and long may it continue.


I would have liked an apology from Knoxxy for his nasty lies but he seems not to have the moral fibre to admit when he gets something wrong, in fact he has decided to hide away rather than face up to his mistake but I'm happy as I feel I've clearly shown his lies up for what they are, cheap and nasty.

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PS Can I also point out to Knoxxy that the Chelsea fans also did the Bouncy today after taking up the song after we played them a couple of years ago, are they singing about killing the lad as well?

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 נושא ההודעה: Re: Glasgow Rangers FC
הודעהפורסם: ה' מאי 13, 2010 10:08 am 
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הצטרף: ו' אוגוסט 28, 2009 8:37 pm
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"Fuck the Queen" isn't anti-protestant. Yes, some people use it in that way, but most people are against the queen as she is head of the monarchy. Also, the people who run this country discriminate against Catholics (A Catholic cannot be Prime Minister, and I'm sure they aren't allowed to be King/Queen either)


Sorry to bump this up but I came across this that rules out that there is no ban on Catholics becoming Prime Minister

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There is no simple yes or no question to this answer. While there is no express legal bar the election of a non-Anglican British Prime Minister, such a situation would be constitutionally akward given the prime minister's role in appointing senior members of the Church of England. While theoretically, the soverieng has the ultimate power in making ecclesiastical appointments, he or she acts on the advice of the prime minister.

Under the Roman Catholic Relief Act of 1829, sect. 17, and the Jews' Relief Act of 1858, sec 4, no Roman Catholic or Jew may advise the sovereign on ecclesiastical matters. Were the prime minister to be a Roman Catholic or a Jew and alternate system of ecclesiastical appointment would have to be devised.

To date, all British Prime Ministers to date, at least while in office, have professed Anglican faith. Disraeli, while born into a jewish family, was babtised into the church of England at age 12 and Tony Blair waited till after he stood down from the post of prime minister to officially convert to catholicism.
Gordon Brown does not 'profess the Anglican faith'. His father was a Church of Scotland minister. It is unlikely that any other non-English Prime Minister would be an Anglican (e.g. Alec Douglas-Hume, Ramsey Macdonald).


So a Catholic can become Prime Minister, indeed recently all the Party Leaders, Blair, Charles Kennedy and Ian Duncan-Smith were Catholic, although Blair didn't officially convert until he left Office he regularly attended Mass as confirmed here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/oct/1 ... ion.labour

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