the games will played at the 27-28.7 and at the 3-4.8

Salam Aleikum,I'm fan of FC AKTOBE (Kazakhstan).U know that we can play against your Hapoel T-A in 3 round CL.Can you give me some information about FC Hapoel T-A ? and about ultras hapoel t-a

u aleikum salam
welcome to our forum
i have short time right now, i will write more later on.
what can you tell us about aktobe football club and supporters? i understand your league is in the middle of the season now? how are you doing so far?

maybe u know that AKTOBE champions of last 3 seasons.and last year we played agains maccabi haifa and werder bremen.yes u're right . our football federation made new sistem.and now is middle of the season. now we have 4-th place in league.but also we have ambition to become again a champion 2010. our ultras grup in this time the best in Kazakhstan. but I think before this AKTOBE and Hapoel must win olimpi and jeleznichar.

both teams need to finish what they do.
then we can talk about the next game in the CL

most likely both our teams will qualify to the next stage and meet, so this topic and user is most welcomed here. besides this  
we can get to know eachother regardless of any score made.
to get an oportunity to learn about a football and supporters scene
that is very unknown such as the kazah, could be very interesting for all of us.

are muslims includes in hapoel utras grup? Is realigions of fans important for hapoel ultras? P.S sorry for my english

ofcourse there are muslims in our ultras group and all regular supporters. hapoel tel aviv is well known as an multi cultural club in all aspects.
this is one of the main reasons this club is most hated in israel .the club accepts all people from all religion and culture
while others do not.
ofcourse inside our supporters you can find racists and nationalsits, but they are a minority while the majority accepts and respects all religion beliefs and cultural backgrounds of people.
religion is not important, to be a good person which respects others and does not hate on a race basis is much more important

1.Have your hapoel ultras grup plan to visit match between Aktobe-hapoel (if everything will be ok) ? 2.What is the best visiting match of hapoel utras. 3.What realations between maccabi haifa and hapoel ? 4.What jewish fans think about Aktobe after match against maccabi haifa ?

oalekom al slam orhmt allah

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strikers mhran +victor maraae

me mohameed

if both teams qualify to next round - i am sure you will see a nice number of hapoel supporters in kazahstan.
i did not quite understand your second question about the visiting match, so please make it more clear
maccabi haifa and us have a rivalry based on the rivalry on the field between the teams throughout the years, but no big rivalry between supporters.
they hate us much more than we hate them.
our biggest rivals are maccabi tel aviv and then beitar jerusalem
both extreme racists and nationalists scum

i think that the israeli football supporters think aktobe is a fine team that had bad luck and were naive to lose to maccabi haifa in such way they did last year. it was a real shame not to win after leading 3-0 away.

If both teams qualify to next round -is hapoel going to KAZAKHSTAN with big number of security??? (like maccabi h) in KAZAKHSTAN hates jewish, and supports Palestina

you and your supporters must understand something very basic

WE DONT REPRESENT ISRAEL. WE REPRESENT HAPOEL.

we dont come to support hapoel as israelis. you will not see israeli national flags in our gate. we dont care for all of this.
we support hapoel and care for our mentality and ideas, that is all.

shalom

we are jews, we have alot of soliders in our crowd, alot of religious jews, we are zionist, we dont like antisemitic

what europeans ultras, supporters has good realations with hapoel?

you can not say all hapoel supporters are zionists, so do not say "we" like this.
some are, some are not
i can not say "we" on the whole of hapoel tel aviv supporters, but i can say that ultras hapoel mentality is extremely anti nationalist, anti fascist, and anti racists.
therefore, we, ultras hapoel, are anti nationalists and anti racists.

ultras hapoel has brotherhoods with "gate" 9 of omonoia nicosia, "ultras st pauli" of fc st pauli and "ultras inferno" of standard liege.

maybe.... everything has good and bad side

Officer Barbrady - if you start to talk about it.please write about "shoa"

shoa?
you dont know what is the holocaust?
6 milion jews murdered, sound familiar?
hiltler and the nezis killing 1.5 milion jews children, didnt you learn about it?

Salam Aleilkum!
the great majority of the crowd doesn't have any problem with muslims and won't care where you (the rival team) come from or what's you're religion. you are very welcome in out temple, that is the bloomfield stadium. the majority of fans are jewish but there are also many arab supporters. as a group we aren't jewish, arab, zionist, anti-zionists, religious or non-religions, as a group we are just hapoel

how many fans do you think will come to israel?

Kazakh,welcome on forum.

ua aleikum assalam.!
I can't say exact numbers of supporters who will come to israel and come they're or not. But I'm only sure that I can't come.if I receive israelian (or jewish) visa I can't go to Arabian countries.Thats why I can't
is tel-aviv expensive city? and who of hapoel fans have been in Kazakhstan?

You can not say that "we" do not represent Israel as he could not say "we" Zionists, Jews, etc..
In my opinion, we also represent Israel. Why do you and the "ultras" set for everyone what we do represent what or waht we do not.
survey in red-fans.com said the majority also thinks we represent Israel too

your rematks about jews reminds me of "BORAT"' and its not a complimant

being jewish is a religion
jews live all over the world

Israel is a country
in israel live jewish, muslims, christians and other religions

is it more clear now?

The website of Ultras Hapoel in english - http://ultrashapoel.com/lenglish